A few gifs per episode | Angel - 1x01 - “City of…”
Charisma Carpenter talks about getting fired from Angel. Thank you for sending me this link!
This is the interview I’ve been talking about for a while. Everyone should watch this.
Will I always reblog this? Of course I will always reblog this. Will I ever get over how in a single horrible, unforgivable decision Joss ruined AtS, fandom perception of Cordelia Chase, Angel/Cordelia, and pretty much all of his credibility as a feminist? Nope. Poor CC. :( Every time I hear about this my heart breaks for this woman a little bit more.
But she and Julie Benz are the best BFF ever. They should do adorable chick flicks together. I would totally watch that shit.
Must watch! Charisma tells the truth of what really happened behind the scenes at AtS, her pregnancy, her strained relationship with Joss and how she was asked to come back for the 100th episode. I’ve known for awhile, but I know some of you may not have known what happened.
Reblogging in case anyone is still under the illusion that a) Charisma Carpenter was fired for anything other than GETTING PREGNANT and b) that Joss Whedon was ever a real, actual feminist or even a friend to women.
Seriously, though. I wish fans and people who want to defend Whedon would listen to her talk about that she was on both shows for a combined total of eight years. Charisma was 26/27 when BTVS started out. So by the time she got pregnant with her son, she was about 31/32.
I mean, what’s she supposed to do? Keep waiting to have a baby and live her life until the show finally runs out of steam? What if it goes for another five years?
Also, can we please keep in mind what actually happened here: this supposedly feminist man decided to damage the career of a woman who worked for him because she made a personal choice with her own body (ie - to have a baby) because that choice didn’t line up with what he wanted her to do in order to embody his vision of a female character. And not only did he do that, but he treated her like crap and even went back on his stated promises to her.
All because it amounted to a woman not doing what he wanted so he could have the female character on his show be just the way he wanted.
In what world does that guy get called feminist? Oh yeah, this one.
I just feel so bad for Charisma Carpenter. I do. Because she can never tell this story straight out. She has to be really, carefully diplomatic about it and make sure to say that everything’s fine now and she’s cool and Joss is still a great guy. There’s probably way more she’ll never tell or at least not for a long time to come. Because she still can’t afford to piss Joss Whedon off.
Because this feminist guy will, in response to a woman doing something he doesn’t like, use his power to damage her career.
So let’s just think about that, yeah?
Holy fuck, I did not know this.
Meanwhile, a video someone described to me as “Joss Whedon mansplains feminism." I’m still reeling from the 800-comment two-entry argument we had on my LJ over me being mildly unfond of the "mewling quim" line in The Avengers. I am serious, I think that second entry is the only one I have EVER had to close comments on. I didn’t even know HOW until then. (And I still say that scene doesn’t work the way it’s meant to.) I’m possibly biased for life now, is what I’m saying. So.
Cordelia Chase was the first woman on TV who taught teenage me that being nice wasn’t as important as being whole.
Cordelia was mean. She was petty. She didn’t give two fucks about tact. Cordelia knew who she was and you needed to get on board or get out of her way. And the narrative didn’t call her evil for this — selfish, sure. In a way that she (mostly) grew out of. But never evil. Instead, her storyline progressed in such a way that these same character traits in a more developed light made her the heart of the Angel investigations team.
Angel didn’t want to charge people for cases, because he wanted to be a hero? Well, that’s great Angel, but rent in L.A. is expensive, your employees need paychecks, and when you are saving a billionaire’s life you can afford to charge him. It’s okay to run a business like a business. It’s okay to be mean sometimes.
Angel wanted to shut down the agency because of an existential crises? Well screw you Angel, you don’t even go here. We’ll start our own agency without you. It’s okay ignore your friend’s requests when they are asking you to do something you find fundamentally disrespectful. Angel tried to belittle Cordelia’s commitment to the cause, and she was not having that.
Wesley wanted Angel to work for his penance and take his time before being forgiven? That’s cool Wes, but Angel just got Cordy all of these amazing new clothes, and also she misses him, and she’d really rather just put the angst aside and have her friend back. It’s okay to let things go if that’s what makes you happy.
Cordelia was intelligent, confident, and ultimately a good friend. But she wasn’t concerned with being nice. When someone called her a “bitch” she owned that shit.
- Cordelia: I’m not a sniveling, whiny, little cry-Buffy. I’m the nastiest girl in Sunnydale history. I take crap from no one. You think you’re bad? All mean and haunty? Picking on poor, pathetic Cordy? Well, get ready to haul your wrinkly, translucent ass out of this place, ‘cause lady, the bitch is back.
At a time in my adolescence where “bitch” was meant to cut to the core — bitches aren’t popular, bitches don’t get dates, bitches aren’t smart or funny or kind — the idea that someone could take the mantle of “bitch” and wear it proudly was a revelation. Cordelia Chase was there to tell me that bitch was only an insult if I let it be.
And also she made Angel do a happy dance. So.
in which Queen C drops some serious truth
Fight the good fight, whichever way you can.